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markbrad

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Hi All,

I have an accepted offer due to close on July 2 in central AB. I knew it was an estate sale upon offering, and aked my realtor about probate, who in turn asked the listing agent. I was told there should be no problem with the closing date. I lined up financing, had an appraisal, (which I will have to pay for if I don`t do the deal) Had reno quotes done, and ready to order windows, flooring, line up a painter etc. I had hoped to have the place rent ready by the end of July or mid Aug to target the back to school rental rush. A day after I lifted conditions, my lawyer phoned and said the sellers lawyer told him they hadn`t yet received papers from the bank and therefore hadn`t even filed for probate, so we are looking at a very minimum of six weeks til possession. Probate is all Greek to me, but what I do know is I will miss a prime rental market, possibly a couple of months rent, I can`t order windows and flooring etc without knowing my possession date (which means the property could sit idle as I wait for these items for 6 to 8 wks) My lawyer says I have no legal obligation if they can`t meet our closing date.

I see my options are to walk, to try and renegotiate a better price (my realtor says there is still a back up offer in place) or just ammend the closing and stay with it. Is there any way to penalize the sellers (ie so many $ per day late on closing?)?

I am just throwing the feelers out for anyone with a similar experience, and thoughts an opinions on this scenario.

btw I used to deal with the sellers lawyer and have moved on because he would never return calls, took up to 90 days to get final paperwork to us on purchases etc. so I know he is a slow mover, and when he sees our name on the papers it may slow him down more (we have also moved our construction business away from him as well)

Looking forward to your input,
Mark
 

timk519

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QUOTE (markbrad @ Jun 16 2008, 12:52 AM) My lawyer says I have no legal obligation if they can`t meet our closing date.

I see my options are to walk, to try and renegotiate a better price (my realtor says there is still a back up offer in place) or just ammend the closing and stay with it. Is there any way to penalize the sellers (ie so many $ per day late on closing?)? If they don`t meet the agreed closing date, it would seem your choices are to walk away, offer to extend the deadline in exchange for a monetary or other consideration, or anything else the seller agrees to.

But to be told `no problem` up front and then get told `well, there is aproblem` right after lifting conditions smells like a rat? What else is going on that you don`t know about? Do you want to deal with someone like that?
 

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Probate can be a complicated long drawn process as there are so many variables involved. What this boils down to is how much does it matter to you if this deal takes 6 weeks or 6 months to close. If you decide to go forward with it you have no idea what problems may arise that will further extend the time frame.
Is the property important enough for you to wait as long as it takes or do you have better things to do with your time and money.
I see two options, lower the offer to make the time worth my waiting or walk away.
 

BarryMcGuire

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I checked with Avideh Musgrave, our Wills & Estates specialist here at Ritchie Mill Law Office. She says it takes, on average, 6 months to probate an estate.

Forewarned is forearmed!
 

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It took almost 2 years to do my father inlaws but he had property in Florida that extended it about 6 months.
 

markbrad

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Thanks you guys! My lawyer is stating a minimum of six weeks, but perhaps even that is optimistic?? Is there a way to recover the cost of having the appraisal that I have to pay for if I don`t proceed with the mortgage?
Mark
 

Thomas Beyer

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QUOTE (markbrad @ Jun 20 2008, 08:45 PM) .... Is there a way to recover the cost of having the appraisal that I have to pay for if I don`t proceed with the mortgage?
Mark

yes, you can sue them .. but I do not recommend it ..

to keep the deal alive, get an offer extension such that you still get the deal up to XYZ date .. perhaps at better terms ! get a mortgage that allow you to lock in terms up to XYZ date ..
 
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