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What would you do?

I live in one of the lousiest investment areas (as of now) as far as fundamentals is concerned. I live in Ontario between Chatham and Windsor. I work at the minivan plant located in Windsor, and my wife is a stay at home mom with 3 sons. The contract with Chrysler and our union expires in September of this year, and Mr. Buz Hargrove is pointing us in the direction of a potential strike situation. But already, Chrysler is playing hardball with one of our suppliers and wanting them to stay working for 11.25/hr. As a result, our minivan plant has been idled until something is worked out, and I am laid off. Chrysler refuses to pay us lost time even though it is a workers dispute not involving our union. It`s an intimidation tactic, to cause fear and panic. But hey, there is another minivan plant in the States just hungry for our work.

To sum it up, there is a real possibility of the plant coming to a close in the very near future. But while I`m still employed with Chrysler, I am still in a good position to get financial approval for loans.

My Question. If you were me with a limited time frame to give it your best shot, would you start small and buy a house or duplex or two, etc, .. or would you go big, and seek out the biggest apartment you could purchase. I need as much cashflow as I can get while I am still employed and can get a lone. But many of the big retail properties only produce surprisingly small cashflow for what I`d have to pay with my limited funds. And I think would need to buy outside my area, meaning more money, meaning I need a property management Co.
What would you do?

Ken
 
Ken,
Sorry you are in your current predicament. I don`t know your complete financial picture nor am I qualified to give you advice. I think you need to use the basic knowledge from R.E. I. in Canada book. Definitely start with something you are comfortable with given your knowledge base and access to captial. Once you have several successful properties begin working with JV prospects. I am in a similar position and am targeting townhouse condos in an area mine and REIN`s research shows good economic fundamentals so I can build a stable portfolio and track record before moving on to JV`s.

In my humble opinion Hargrove claims to be a man for the poor downtrodden auto worker while he cares more about playing hardball with seasoned business executives who will win regardless. Remember, he who has the gold makes all the rules. I would sooner follow the lead of someone like Don Campbell who engenders a win-win-win philosophy ie. you-your network-the greater economy, rather than Buzz Hargrove who only believes in a win-lose zero sum game.
 
Like Ed, I don`t have enough info on your background and am not in a good position to give specific advice.

You do, however, seem somewhat concerned about the added costs of property management. I guess your assumption is that if you could do it yourself, then it would be "free"? If so, you are short changing your hourly worth!

I have a rental property in London but I live in Burlington. I have been getting terrific service from "Apartments of London" for a very reasonable price. Consider London, Sarnia, or maybe a bit further east to the #1 investment spot in Ontario: Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge. It is not that far from you anyway.

But re-assess the value of your time. Property management is worth it!
 
My oppinion, I would not do it.

If I were facing layoff with a wife and three kids at home I would not be looking to take on the added stress of being a landlord knowing that at any time unexpected expences could wipe you out.
The best way to start is small when you have a secure job to cover surprises without hurting your family finances. There are no garantees and you risk losing it all as many often do even with a proven system and good planing.
Expect the unexpected.
 
Hi Ken:

I would recommend that you maximize your cashflow from an investment as that is what will carry you and assist you in any dry time with your present job. You are best to get something now while you are still gainfully employed. Once word is out to lenders that the plant is striking or closing then they will not fund you.

Good Luck.

Roy Cleeves, Realtor in Kitchener
 
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