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The ugly truth :-)

dcaz4moores

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No beating around the bush:



Rather then going bankrupt one files for a consumer proposal.

The proposal is honored and the 5 year lending/Credit punishment sentence has been served. Once the lending machines have finished with the shunning, and the leash is ready to be extended (the credit history blemish is removed, this has been around 7 years); If one has shown perfect (or near perfect) handling and has not choked on the crumb like credit they have, in addition, make a significant income...what are the lenders/brokers going to want to see so as to feel comfortable dealing with the likes of me?



The ugly truth only please :-)



Regards,



Dave.
 
First of all you should assess your CASH situation .. then your CREDIT situation.



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[*]CASH is a
combination of `real` cash, committed friends and family`s cash and a
HELOC (Home Equity Line of Credit) or short: LOC. On a LOC you have to
pay interest only on the portion you use, which is good. So don`t use
it all immediately to buy a yacht or a fancy condo in Hawaii.

For CREDIT: Talk to a mortgage broker, to get pre-qualified for a mortgage !!
[/list type=decimal]


Then, research a market, decide what AREA of the world you wish to
invest in and then what type of property. This is a big world, so is it
the Lower Mainland (Vancouver, British Columbia), Edmonton Alberta,
Southern Alberta, rural Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Northern Manitoba,
Florida, Phoenix, Vietnam, Singapore, Venice, Turkey, ` ?





Any area takes time (and a little bit of money for driving time,
flying there, donuts, lunches, research material ..) to research. The
bigger the area, the bigger the time commitment . British Columbia
takes more time to research than the Lower Mainland which takes more
time than Greater Vancouver which takes more time than the North Shore
which takes more time than North Vancouver east of Hwy 1 which takes
more time than Deep Cove.






I suggest you start with a VERY VERY small area .. say a
suburb of one of the Top 10 REIN towns in Alberta, or
if you must, BC or Ontario.







Then, decide on a TYPE of property: townhouses ? condos with
oceanview ? single family homes older than 50 years ? new sub-divisions
? pre-sales ? acreages ? horsefarms ? trailer parks ? office buildings
in crappy parts of town ? high end luxury condos with high end
finishings ? land with sub-division potential ? strip malls ? defunct
shopping centres ? warehouses ? storage facilities ? fixer upper homes
? ANY of these property types allow you to make money once you know
what you are doing.






The best one to start as there is plenty of supply and plenty of
seller motivation is a small house or a townhouse. Not a condo as you
can`t control costs of the condo association. Not a big house either as
they are usually more expensive and hard to cash-flow.






Then spend a TON OF TIME BECOMING AN EXPERT on the property type in
an area. THEN AND ONLY THEN should you start writing offers and buying.
And yes, better several smaller properties than one huge one. Many
properties allow you to sell one if you have to.






For each piece of real estate you have to hang in financially and emotionally.







This means realistic assessment of cash situation (inc. closing
costs, vacancies, upgrades required in addition to `normal` expenses
like: mortgage payment, taxes, utilities, condo fees, insurance,
management fees ..). It also means realistic assessment of mental
`toughness` or time commitment. Vacancies will arise. Basements will
flood. Tenants occasionally have to be evicted. Maybe the police gets
involved. Boilers break .. sometimes at midnight. Get used to it .. or
anticipate it. Be prepared to handle those things yourself, or
preferably, hire a property manager that does it for you, but then be
prepared to pay this person or company well.

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So, ask yourself: who will manage this property impeccably? Cash to
close comes in 2 forms: real cash and a mortgage. To get a mortgage,
you need various documents including property documents and personal
documents showing the bank that you are credit-worthy. REIN (Real
Estate Investment Network) calls this the `networth binder`.






Spend A LOT OF TIME preparing this document, find a mortgage broker
to get you a mortgage, or at least tell you what kind of mortgage you
can get roughly, depending on the type of property listed above. Horse
farms are treated differently than trailer parks than condos ..Before
closing ensure you have someone in that market to manage the property
impeccably. That could be you, although a professional with in-depth
market insight, knowledge of legalities and local knowledge is likely
better. Spend some significant time finding that special someone, as
good property managers are VERY hard to come by.






Once the deal makes sense .. you got the money (cash +
mortgage) .. and the manager .. ask yourself if you will be able to
hang in emotionally and financially .. if so: CLOSE.
 
Thomas has given you the best advise & I cannot add anything except to say don't give up! Talk with a good mortgage broker. A deal can always be put together. You have to decide if the terms/rate make sense to you. Best of luck!



Doug
 
Again encouraged...the straight forward direction and advice is worth its weight in gold.



I look forward to giving back to this community as much, if not more (if that is even possible) then what I have been given in the short time I have participated. I have learned and benefited tremendously by interacting on this forum and delving into the REIN home study course... and it has only been 3 months! I look forward to reflecting back 3 years from now and assessing the growth that has taken place.



It will be a great story of perseverance and success (attributed to Gods grace and taking action, by joining REIN) that will be a real gem to share...and hopefully motivate others to action as well.

Again thank you for taking the time to respond...both you and Doug.



Regards,

Dave.
 
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