"To suggest that what goes on in your property is "none of your business" is foolhardy. " - In reference to the original post I stand by this. If your tenant is making reasonable use of the place, not damaging the property, paying rent, and abiding by by-laws and rta it's none of your business. This applies to the post as well as many other landlord concerns I hear.
"This approach in Ontario will get you in over your head very quickly. Good luck if you have a bad tenant or heaven forbid a professional tenant. Your comments makes it sound (perhaps wrongly) like you are afraid of your tenants and operating your business accordingly." I've had bad tenants. I've seen it all. I have hundreds of tenants. It's not advisable to threaten your tenant. Keep emotions out of it and be process oriented.
A landlord needs to stay on top of everything that goes on and maintain a ongoing dialogue with there tenants when something changes. Be firm they must learn who is in charge.
This is one of my major complaints against management companies. The sloppy ones allow all types of infractions and "issues" to continue, unaddressed, out of avoidance and laziness until a situation is beyond repair. I do stay on top of things.. and proactively deal with items.. however in this case there's nothing to be firm on - the tenant is within their right. Not to justify bad service - I aim to provide great service but appreciate there are many OK and many outright TERRIBLE PM companies - But in this particular case if the owner wanted the pm to do something on this the pm should both due nothing and communicate why to the owner.
"Talk to your tenants, if something is changed or wrong address it immediately. Use your landlord "people skills" to your advantage. Landlords need to be proactive and not avoid confrontation.
In this case having two tenants on a lease and suspecting there is now a third tenant means they "may" HAVE DONE SOMETHING WRONG. You need to find out by direct contact with the tenant. Provide supporting evidence.
If addressing issues is damaging relations either you have poor people skills or a bad tenant."What have they done wrong ? You don't that this person is living their on an ongoing basis, or plans to be.
"As far as referencing the LTB, your lawyer or accountant this is intended to educate your tenants not threaten them. They should perceive you as a sophisticated landlord thus directing any issues they may have with the "notice" somewhat away from you personally. Again use your people skills.
Follow the rules, bend them if necessary but never fear your tenants. " I disagree. If you need to servce notice serve notice. If you want to try to create an unnecessary war and have them start researching ways to screw you over your approach is the way to go.
"As far as the LTB is concerned for landlords good, bad or indifferent we all get treated the same. If you go be professional, cross every T, dot every i, pray if you think that will help." True and trying to demand more money from your tenant on this is NOT professional.
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QUOTE (invst4profit @ Apr 8 2009, 02:46 PM)
housingrental:
As a seasoned landlord I have issues with your management approach.
To suggest that what goes on in your property is "none of your business" is foolhardy. This approach in Ontario will get you in over your head very quickly. Good luck if you have a bad tenant or heaven forbid a professional tenant. Your comments makes it sound (perhaps wrongly) like you are afraid of your tenants and operating your business accordingly.
A landlord needs to stay on top of everything that goes on and maintain a ongoing dialogue with there tenants when something changes. Be firm they must learn who is in charge.
This is one of my major complaints against management companies. The sloppy ones allow all types of infractions and "issues" to continue, unaddressed, out of avoidance and laziness until a situation is beyond repair.
Talk to your tenants, if something is changed or wrong address it immediately. Use your landlord "people skills" to your advantage. Landlords need to be proactive and not avoid confrontation.
In this case having two tenants on a lease and suspecting there is now a third tenant means they "may" HAVE DONE SOMETHING WRONG. You need to find out by direct contact with the tenant. Provide supporting evidence.
If addressing issues is damaging relations either you have poor people skills or a bad tenant.
As far as referencing the LTB, your lawyer or accountant this is intended to educate your tenants not threaten them. They should perceive you as a sophisticated landlord thus directing any issues they may have with the "notice" somewhat away from you personally. Again use your people skills.
Follow the rules, bend them if necessary but never fear your tenants.
As far as the LTB is concerned for landlords good, bad or indifferent we all get treated the same. If you go be professional, cross every T, dot every i, pray if you think that will help.
