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Need help for my first residential/income property purchase in Edmonton

Robax

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I’m a mature single male based in Edmonton and have been renting a basement in the past years. I have always been inspired to be a property investor someday by REIN members here in this forum and have been following up this forum for 3 years religiously. I even paid and attended the multi-family seminar this year in Edmonton without knowing anyone prior to the seminar. I do not earn much from my jobs but, now I have seen save enough money for a down-payment for my first property. It is one of my main goals for this year - to be a landlord. I’m proud to say that I’m able and ready to take action right NOW and hope to get some advice from all you along the way. I am very excited and have got a pre-approval from CIBC recently.

I’m considering the followings:

1) Purchase a single family home to stay in and rent out the other. It must have a separate entrance for tenant to have more privacy.

2) Purchase a townhouse with 3 or 4 rooms and stay in one of the room. Am not sure if tenants are comfy with that.

3) Any opportunity with a property that come with tenant and a spare room for me to stay in.

4) Any opportunity with JV with cash flow property and a spare room for me to stay in.

Please let me have your thoughts and appreciate any comments/opinions.

Thanks and looking forward.
 
QUOTE (Robax @ Nov 18 2010, 12:55 AM) Thanks and looking forward.

Looks like you are on a solid footing and are getting off to a great start.

Your idea of purchasing an owner-occupied property with a secondary suite is really smart, and I know of many first time investors that have had success with this strategy. I would go this route rather than the rooming house way.

When you are shopping, make sure the property you ultimately buy would cash flow on its own with tenants in both suites in place of you. That way when you have enough capital saved/raised for your second one you can move a new tenant into your suite and you can go and do the same thing again. Since you will know the property and tenants quite well by that point you may be able to convince a money partner to buy a 50% share of your first property which will free you up to shop on your own for the second one.

Also consider joining REIN. The bigger events are good but you`ll benefit a lot from the monthly meetings as well. Lots of great content there.

Happy investing!
 
I will echo Brett`s advice. I think you`re on the right track and a suited property that you own and can also rent part of it out is really smart. I would also avoid the rooming-house route.

I have two such properties available that I think would suit your needs. I`m open to JV on them or sell them outright if you are interested. Both are suited single family homes with double garages - great cash flow. If you`d like to discuss them, please let me know here or call me at 780 638 2725.

Even if you`re not interested in purchasing one of those properties, I`d be happy to meet with you for coffee and offer some advice on property selection in Edmonton and refer you to some of my "power team" of realtors, lawyers, etc. I`ve been able to succeed because others did the same for me when I was starting out and I`m happy to give back if I can.
 
QUOTE (Robax @ Nov 18 2010, 12:55 AM) .....
1) Purchase a single family home to stay in and rent out the other. It must have a separate entrance for tenant to have more privacy.
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I also agree on this position! First of all I would like to add that this is a SMART MOVE...I have always recommend this to first time home buyers who wants to get into land-lording (if they have the stomach for it). You see, buying is one segment of the business and the other part is managing it and the tenants (or the PMs if you hand it off). The advices I could give before you get into it on your own, is to educate your self on how to be a PM, and assess your tolerance in the idea of not only sharing your dwelling place with strangers, but also dealing with the day to day property management processes and/or issues. If that part is not for you then I would suggest you consider partnering with someone with the experience first.
 
At this time how much do you have saved for a down payment.
Based on your income do you have any idea how large of a mortgage you can get.
 
Hi there,

I too think that purchasing a small multi-family property is a great first investment AND primary residence. In Edmonton, in decent areas, you`ll pay a hefty price for anything legal and with entirely different entrances (i.e. side X side duplex, 4-plex). There are some deals on up/down properties (both conforming and non-conforming) but it all depends on your down payment, pre-approval amount, credit and your specific needs as a buyer.

My name is Lucas Fausak (I’m a mature single male based in Edmonton and have been renting a basement in the past years. I have always been inspired to be a property investor someday by REIN members here in this forum and have been following up this forum for 3 years religiously. I even paid and attended the multi-family seminar this year in Edmonton without knowing anyone prior to the seminar. I do not earn much from my jobs but, now I have seen save enough money for a down-payment for my first property. It is one of my main goals for this year - to be a landlord. I’m proud to say that I’m able and ready to take action right NOW and hope to get some advice from all you along the way. I am very excited and have got a pre-approval from CIBC recently.

I’m considering the followings:

1) Purchase a single family home to stay in and rent out the other. It must have a separate entrance for tenant to have more privacy.

2) Purchase a townhouse with 3 or 4 rooms and stay in one of the room. Am not sure if tenants are comfy with that.

3) Any opportunity with a property that come with tenant and a spare room for me to stay in.

4) Any opportunity with JV with cash flow property and a spare room for me to stay in.

Please let me have your thoughts and appreciate any comments/opinions.

Thanks and looking forward.
 
Thank you all for your generous help, blessing and encouragement. I appreciate and will certainly contact some of you here next week for more opportunities and advice. I will update you guys on my progress.


Have a good weekend !
 
QUOTE (Robax @ Nov 18 2010, 12:55 AM) I’m a mature single male based in Edmonton and have been renting a basement in the past years. I have always been inspired to be a property investor someday by REIN members here in this forum and have been following up this forum for 3 years religiously. I even paid and attended the multi-family seminar this year in Edmonton without knowing anyone prior to the seminar. I do not earn much from my jobs but, now I have seen save enough money for a down-payment for my first property. It is one of my main goals for this year - to be a landlord. I’m proud to say that I’m able and ready to take action right NOW and hope to get some advice from all you along the way. I am very excited and have got a pre-approval from CIBC recently.

I’m considering the followings:

1) Purchase a single family home to stay in and rent out the other. It must have a separate entrance for tenant to have more privacy.

2) Purchase a townhouse with 3 or 4 rooms and stay in one of the room. Am not sure if tenants are comfy with that.

3) Any opportunity with a property that come with tenant and a spare room for me to stay in.

4) Any opportunity with JV with cash flow property and a spare room for me to stay in.

Please let me have your thoughts and appreciate any comments/opinions.


Thanks and looking forward.



Hi Robax,

I`d love to sit down with you and discuss a world of possibilites. I`ve been a full time investor for the last 13 years and have just recently become a licenced realtor in order to help other people with their investment needs. As a 15 year member of REIN and a fairly experienced investor (over 100 purchases of my own) I can show you a lot of ways of maximizing your possiblities.
 
QUOTE (Robax @ Nov 18 2010, 12:55 AM) I`m considering the followings:

1) Purchase a single family home to stay in and rent out the other. It must have a separate entrance for tenant to have more privacy.

2) Purchase a townhouse with 3 or 4 rooms and stay in one of the room. Am not sure if tenants are comfy with that.

3) Any opportunity with a property that come with tenant and a spare room for me to stay in.

4) Any opportunity with JV with cash flow property and a spare room for me to stay in.

Please let me have your thoughts and appreciate any comments/opinions.

Thanks and looking forward.
Congratulation Robax.

I would like to ad my voice to the choir. In fact Adam came closests to my thinking when he asked what down payment you had and how large a morgage you qualified for.

You are obviously good with your money because you lived below your means in a basement for 3? years in order to save a downpayment. The first question you have you ask your self now is, what kind of a property you can afford without having to live from Kraft Dinners.

I assume, that your income is not overly generous and even if you qualify for a certain mortgage level, that does not mean there is much money left for living. The banks will give you credit to the max that THEY feel comfortable with, that may be quite different from what you are comfortable with.

Also, how would you handle vacancy? My daughter for example tried to get a room mate at a property near Calgary`s university. But that appeared to be very dependant on the time of the year. Yes, it was relatively easy to find a room mate in the Summer when everybody was planning to go back to U of C or started to just move in the area. But later in the year, especially during winter it was near impossible and she was sometimes out of a room mate for months.

The reason I mention a room mate, is that it is the easiest way to rent without getting into issues such as legal or illegal suites. So you could buy a large appartment or a small townhouse with a developed basement. You can buy those for anywhere between $120,000 and $300,000 (that is my guess for Edmonton). Then get one or maybe even more room mates. It would be an improvement from the basement lifestyle and a very economic option.

Doing things in small steps rather than making big jumps is less risky. Also, once you`re ready to make your next real estate purchase, you have an affordable property with a large rental market from which to select the right tenant(s).

So I suggest
step #1: Talk to a mortgage broker to help you determine how much money you can spend
step #2: Determine how much YOU want to spend without losing sleep when having a vacancy
step #3: Contact one of the Edmonton Realtors on this site to better define what you are looking for.
step #4: Once you find the right property, act. Don`t feel afraid to write an offer or two; neither feel personally hurt when an offer is rejected. It just means that buyer and seller have different expectations that cannot be brought together.

I suggest a REIN Realtor, because they know better what criteria you want to use and they probably have more patience than a typical residential Realtor. (This is just a generality). You may want to meet several of those Realtors until you find the one you are comfortable with.

This is a bit like `dating`
, but it is very important that you and the Realtor get along and that you don`t feel `pushed` or `rushed` into a deal. On the otherside of the coin, you have to realize that the Realtor has to make a living, so you should be honest with him/her, set out the rules of working together clearly upfront (buyer brokerage contract). And be aware that the Realtor`s time is preciously so don`t use it up unnecessarily (work efficiently - the Realtor can tell you how).

Remember, the seller pays the Realtors (both his and yours) through a commission based on the purchase price. So don`t be afraid to use one.


Hope this helps,
 
QUOTE (Robax @ Nov 18 2010, 12:55 AM)
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1) Purchase a single family home to stay in and rent out the other. It must have a separate entrance for tenant to have more privacy.



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This is the best option .. I assume by "other" you mean he basement or top floor .. the other floor you don't occupy !



Buy the ugliest house on an average or above average street .. and then upgrade it .. as then you get the biggest lift !



Get pre-approved for a mortgage so you know how big a house you can buy. You could go as low as 5% down.



Then look in a promising area of one of the Top 10 towns REIN recommends and/or an area that you like to live in and that has upside !



Educate yourself on landlording techniques, for exampling by joining REIN.



Research, research, research ..



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5 ways to make money http://myreinspace.com/public_forums/General_Discussion/61-3347-5_ways_to_make_money.html



Prayer especially for RE investors: http://myreinspace.com/public_forums/General_Discussion/61-10209-A_Prayer_especially_for_Real_Estate_Investors.html
 
Hi all,

You guys are simply awesome and once again, I appreciate and seriously noted all your comments and advice here.

Thanks + Looking forward
 
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