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Never, Ever Rent to Anyone You Know.

housing1001

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It`s inevitable: someday your buddy (or brother) Joe is going to need a place to live at exactly the same time that you have a vacancy. It`s going to go through your mind that this might be the perfect solution for both of you. Joe`s a nice guy, and with his carpentry skills (he was the one who drilled through the fridge door in your college apartment to invent—the Keg-A-Rator!), you know he`ll fix your place up real nice. So, in a gesture that you will never cease to regret, you offer Joe your vacant property. He gets a discounted rent, you get a tenant you can trust, everybody wins. Everybody, that is, except anybody who`s even remotely involved in this situation. The thing about renting to people you know (and this also encompasses lease/optioning, carrying financing etc) is that you and your friend/family member enter the agreement with opposing viewpoints in terms of the benefits of the situation. You go in happy because you know your buddy will treat you fairly—meaning that the rent will be on time, the repairs you agreed on will be made in a timely fashion, and he won`t turn your new refrigerator into a Keg-a-rator. HE goes in happy because he knows you`ll treat him fairly—meaning that you`ll let him slide on the rent at Christmas, take his time on the repairs, and indulge his longtime dream of raising Rottweilers in the basement. You think he`ll be the perfect tenant; he thinks you`ll be the perfect landlord. It`s a conflict of outlooks that can`t be resolved without lawyers or fisticuffs.

Remember, when you become a housing provider, your outlook on life undergoes a major change. Your friends who are still tenants probably haven`t had the benefit of experiencing that kind of entrepreneurship, and more than likely have no idea what it`s like to invest huge chunks of time and money in a property. My partner once lost not one but an entire group of college friends when he evicted one for nonpayment of rent; suddenly he`d become "The Man" and was no longer welcome at the poker games. I have a brother who can`t see me at family gatherings without eventually coming around to the subject of how shabbily I treated his best friend by forcing him to pay late fees every month. I have never, ever seen a situation like this work out to the satisfaction of both parties. If you have, I`d like to hear about it. On the bright side, since no one ever tells people that renting to friends and relatives is a very bad thing, there are an awful lot of buying opportunities out there generated when owners realize they`re never going to see a dime out of Joe. Keep your eyes open for these situations; they can become some of your best deals.
 
QUOTE (housing1001 @ May 12 2008, 04:45 PM) It`s inevitable: someday your buddy (or brother) Joe is going to need a place to live at exactly the same time that you have a vacancy. It`s going to go through your mind that this might be the perfect solution for both of you. Joe`s a nice guy, and with his carpentry skills (he was the one who drilled through the fridge door in your college apartment to invent—the Keg-A-Rator!), you know he`ll fix your place up real nice. So, in a gesture that you will never cease to regret, you offer Joe your vacant property. He gets a discounted rent, you get a tenant you can trust, everybody wins. Everybody, that is, except anybody who`s even remotely involved in this situation. The thing about renting to people you know (and this also encompasses lease/optioning, carrying financing etc) is that you and your friend/family member enter the agreement with opposing viewpoints in terms of the benefits of the situation. You go in happy because you know your buddy will treat you fairly—meaning that the rent will be on time, the repairs you agreed on will be made in a timely fashion, and he won`t turn your new refrigerator into a Keg-a-rator. HE goes in happy because he knows you`ll treat him fairly—meaning that you`ll let him slide on the rent at Christmas, take his time on the repairs, and indulge his longtime dream of raising Rottweilers in the basement. You think he`ll be the perfect tenant; he thinks you`ll be the perfect landlord. It`s a conflict of outlooks that can`t be resolved without lawyers or fisticuffs.

Remember, when you become a housing provider, your outlook on life undergoes a major change. Your friends who are still tenants probably haven`t had the benefit of experiencing that kind of entrepreneurship, and more than likely have no idea what it`s like to invest huge chunks of time and money in a property. My partner once lost not one but an entire group of college friends when he evicted one for nonpayment of rent; suddenly he`d become "The Man" and was no longer welcome at the poker games. I have a brother who can`t see me at family gatherings without eventually coming around to the subject of how shabbily I treated his best friend by forcing him to pay late fees every month. I have never, ever seen a situation like this work out to the satisfaction of both parties. If you have, I`d like to hear about it. On the bright side, since no one ever tells people that renting to friends and relatives is a very bad thing, there are an awful lot of buying opportunities out there generated when owners realize they`re never going to see a dime out of Joe. Keep your eyes open for these situations; they can become some of your best deals.

Actually, our best tenant is a good friend`s brother. He always pays his rent on time (he`s lived in the unit for the past five years), is quiet, keeps the place clean, is nice to the neighbours... I can`t say one bad thing about him. But I think you`re right, generally.
 
Unless it`s a mother-in-law, then you can go into it expecting as much anger, tension and awkwardness as usual. But yeah, excellent rule of thumb for renting and many other arenas in the business world.
 
I totally agree with this message.



We had made this mistake ONCE, a very close friend of mine approached me for a place for her son, so I didn't do my checks as I normally would etc. Turns out he was crazy and ended up assaulting the upstairs tenant and received a 24 eviction. He also was extremely angry that I wouldn't allow him to keep the puppy he brought in without asking.



My FORMER friend seemed to think the entire situation was my fault. So after the fact I was spoke with his prior landlord. Turns out he had a bad history with him as well. Go figure.
 
This is one of the most common mistakes of a green landlord and one of the first lessons learned.

Seasoned landlords do everything in their power to reduce the risk of renting to anyone. This includes thorough screening and never renting to anyone you know, recommended by a friend or anyone you are even distantly related to.

Everyone I screen must meet the same grueling standards and based on the worse case scenario is treated as a stranger without the tiniest bit of compassion. Compassion costs money and therefore is not part of my business policy.



Money has no soul and if I ever had one I traded mine for success in this business.
 
The title of this post hits the nail on the head. As I have dealt with hundreds of tenants, I strictly enforce this rule. In 2000, I made the mistake of renting to a person connected through marriage and it became a horrible scenario. Thankkfully, the lesson was learned early. The second part of this is I try to distance myself form tenants, and not get to know them too well. I had a colleague who did this and it caused him alot of headache. The corollary to this is when you have very long-term tenants; in these cases you can become good friends and even exchange Christmas presents.

The more doors you get, the simpler your business must become. You must have the same late fees for everyone, the same utility surcharge if they don't connect the power and so forth.

The other thing that has become clumsy is renting units to employees. I am learning this is a bad idea too. They will want discounted rent, and often special privelages. A bad idea for both parties. What if the work relationship goes sour? Its great to read others posts on this topic.
 
[quote user=invst4profit]Money has no soul and if I ever had one I traded mine for success in this business.



Early candidate for post of the year I think! LOL
 
There is a landlord on another forum asking if they should rent to a supervisor in their work place.

Any body wish to guess where that scenario will end up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (some landlords are actually suggesting it is a good idea)
 
Wow



Even thinking of renting to a supervisor is a bad idea, can you imagine if or better yet WHEN things go wrong. Thats playing with your source of investing money a little too close to home.



DONT DO IT
 
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